Bug #1724

Some chsnges in USSR engines.

Added by simozzz_AK about 10 years ago. Updated about 10 years ago.

Status:NewStart date:2010-10-24
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There is some things I'd like to change in this set.
First of all VL15. It was DC version of VL85 and it was less powerfull (11020hp vs 12450hp VL85 have) and was slower than VL85. I think that it will be better to redraw VL15 because it must look almost like VL85 or even remove VL15 from this set.
Next one is M62. It must have power of 1480hp instead 1970hp.
Same with P36. Must have power of 2600hp or it will be more powerfull than freight steam locos like FD20 or P38.
Also I think that while adding Russian metro train you hit wrong button on your keyboard an called it "81-729" instead of "81-720"(it have nickname of "Yauza").
TEP150 is fully Ukranian diesel, so I have no thoughts why it have Russian flag at buying menu. By the way there is a diesel which build in Russia at same time and in use in many ex USSR countries. It is TEP70BS.
And if you need fast and powerfull diesel in 60s, look at TEP60.


#1 Updated by Voyager1 about 10 years ago

I didn't know this about VL15. If that's the case, I don't see why we need it in the set.

M62 and P36 - I could have found and written down the wrong data... Please, just say if you find any data out of normal.

TEP60 - I've already drawn it but DJ Nekkid hasn't included it yet and I just can't find the file. I must look further for it.

#2 Updated by simozzz_AK about 10 years ago

Also Hungarian "Ev3" was modification of Russian "E type". But in the set "Ev3" appear in 1960 at the time of appearing main "E type" (Hungarian one was introduced in 1969). "E" series number is 81-704 and it still in use at St. Petersburg metro. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE_%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0_%D0%95
Main metro train series in ex USSR countries is 81-717/81-714. Introduced in 1970 it still or was in use in such cities as Moscow, Kiev, Minsk, Budapesht, Praha etc. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE_81-717/714

#3 Updated by Voyager1 about 10 years ago

As I said, it's not about absolute accuracy. There are a lot of engines depicted as a country's own but IRL have been produced elsewhere. Just to give you some examples:
ChME3 - Russian but originally Czechoslovakian
KkSTB - Hungarian but originally Austrian
HŽ class 1141 - Croatian but originally Swedish ASEA - that could also be interpreted as an American engine
DRB Class 52 - German and originally German but was used in 10+ countries!

It's not about engines' "origin". In this set, contributors choose their own ways of depicting some engines. It's not a "Russian" set or "American" set, or "British Rail" set or "DB" set... It's a world's set.

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